卷一·第十七至十八章　冰雹不碍星宿争战，诸星既是征兆也是原因

CHAP. XVII. Proving their Reply to Judges 5.20. weak, and nowise available to their intent or purpose.

第十七章　证明他们对《士师记》第五章第二十节的答复软弱，对他们的意图或目的毫无用处。

ENter we now on the last Text, viz. That in Iudges, with which they bid us compare Josh. 10.11. Exod 9 23. the which you shall see maketh altogether as little for their turn as all the rest have in the other, and therefore it was they durst not deliver the words, which are these, Iosh. 10.11. And it came to pass as they fled from before Israel (meaning the hosts of the 5.

现在我们来看最后一处经文，即《士师记》那一处，他们叫我们参看《约书亚记》第十章第十一节、《出埃及记》第九章第二十三节；你会看到，这两处对他们的用处，与其余各处在别的地方对他们的用处一样小，所以他们才不敢写出原话来；原话是这样的，《约书亚记》第十章第十一节：他们在以色列人面前逃跑的时候（指那五个

Kings) and were in the going down to Bethoren, that the Lord cast down great stones from Heaven upon them unto Azekah; they were more which died with hale-stones, then they which the children of Israel slew with the sword: in all which, we see only the vengeance of God executed on those people that Ioshuah was ordained to drive out from before the children of Israel: how doth this prove that the stars in their courses fought not against Sisera, in the fifth of Iudges? or that they did not indeee fight also against these 5.

王的军队），正在伯和仑的下坡路上，耶和华从天上降大石头在他们身上，直到亚西加；被冰雹打死的，比以色列人用刀杀死的还多：在这一切里，我们看到的只是神向那些民族施行报应，约书亚奉命要把他们从以色列人面前赶出去：这怎能证明《士师记》第五章里星宿没有从它们的轨道上与西西拉争战？又怎能证明星宿实际上没有也与这五个

Kings? for by their own confession, the storms, hale, wind, and tempests that discomfited Siseras Army, were occasioned by the influence of the stars; and therefore I know no reason to the contrary, but that they were also occasioners of these hale-stones, so that they have gained little by this their first place to be therewith compared.

王争战？因为照他们自己的供认，击溃西西拉军队的风暴、冰雹、风与暴风雨，是诸星的影响造成的；所以我看不出有什么理由反过来说，它们不也是这些冰雹的造成者；所以他们拿来对照的第一处经文，并没有使他们得到什么。

As touching the second, it is this, Exod. 9.23. The words are, And Moses stretched forth his Rod towards Heaven, and the Lord sent thunder and hale, and the fire run along upon the ground, and the Lord rained hale upon the Land of Egypt; a strong argument truly, that the stars in their courses fought not against Sisera! what would they have it to be, or their Reader to understand by these their weak come-offs? would they have it the hand of God? I say the same; would they have it hale-storms?

至于第二处，是这样的，《出埃及记》第九章第二十三节，原话是：摩西向天伸杖，耶和华就打雷下雹，有火闪到地上；耶和华下雹在埃及地上；这真是一个有力的论证，证明星宿没有从它们的轨道上与西西拉争战！他们用这些软弱的遁词，要让它是什么、要让读者明白什么呢？他们要说那是神的手吗？我也这样说；他们要说那是冰雹风暴吗？

I say so to; what would they have it to be? Can they shew me in either, or both these their texts, that the stars in their courses fought not against Sisera? or can they shew that thereby we are taught and shewn to read that place otherwise? but they must know this, that though in neither of them there is a word to be found or mention made of any stars, yet in that of Judges there is both mention of them, and express testimony they fought against Sisera, The stars in their courses fought against Sisera.

我也这样说；他们到底要说它是什么呢？他们能在这两处经文的任何一处或两处里，向我指出星宿没有从它们的轨道上与西西拉争战吗？或者能指出我们由此受教、被指示要把那一处另作别解吗？但他们必须知道：虽然这两处里都找不到一个字、也没有提到任何星辰，但在《士师记》那一处，既提到了星辰，又明明作证说它们与西西拉争战：星宿从它们的轨道上与西西拉争战。

So that you see clearly my Arguments, proving Astrologie to be warranted by the word of God, do remain yet unshaken, and that notwithstanding all that they have or can say; no solid Reply can be by them produced to the contrary; wherefore it mattereth not (should we make no more words) what either of them both or all the men in the World that are either ignorantly or obstinatly or traditionally against it, do say against it; for as I end that 2. sect of my 2. chap. where I prove the stars to be both signs and causes, I may here, you see, again triumphantly sing, Et si Scriptura, & ipse Deus nobiscum quis contra nos? If the Scripture and God himself be with us, who can be against us?

所以你清楚地看到，我证明占星学有神的话为凭据的论证，至今仍未被动摇，不管他们已说或能说什么；他们拿不出任何站得住的答复来反驳；所以（就算我们不再多说）他们两人、或者世上一切出于无知、固执或因袭而反对它的人说了什么反对它的话，都无关紧要；因为正如我在（《真理之光》）第二章第二节——在那里我证明诸星既是征兆，也是原因——的结尾那样，我在这里也可以，你看，再一次凯旋地歌唱：（拉丁文）“若圣经与神自己都与我们同在，谁能敌挡我们？”若圣经与神自己都与我们同在，谁能敌挡我们呢？

Wherefore you see now what great cause the Penner of that rabble had to say after these evasions and juggles, Thus with a touch it appears that Mr. Ramesey is deceived in his conclusion to the said proofs, that one of them were enough to convince any man the stars have influence; for, nor one, nor all, nor an hundred such, are in any shew sufficient to convince a prudent man of this, &c.

所以你现在看到，那堆乌合之言的执笔者，在这些遁词与把戏之后，有多大的理由说：这样一触即见，拉姆齐先生对上述证据所下的结论——其中一处就足以使任何人信服诸星有影响——是受了骗；因为不论一处、全部，还是一百处这样的经文，都丝毫不足以使一个审慎的人信服这一点，如此等等。

Thus you see he denies the very testimonny of the word of God, nay although it were affirmed by an hundred places, and yet with all his wit he cannot refell the least of these, save with his facing down with a bold forehead, which to the judicious will be but a laughing stock; for now it is most manifest, that whereas he said, I was then in a dream, he is in such a dream that he knoweth not where he is, nor how to beturn or betake himself for refuge, but by railing and spitting his venome Viper-like against me and that wherewith I have wounded him to the quick; for it is most apparent, that (although he saith thus with a touch, &c.) he hath so slightly touched my Arguments that they yet stand unshaken; and had he not said thus with a touch, we had not known whether he had touched them or no.

这样你就看到，他否认神的话本身的见证，即使有一百处经文来断言也不认；可他用尽他的机智，连其中最小的一处也驳不倒，只能厚着脸皮硬顶，这在有见识的人看来不过是个笑柄；因为现在最明显不过的是：他说我那时在做梦，可他自己却在这样一场梦里，不知身在何处，也不知该转向哪里、投奔何处去避难，只能谩骂，像毒蛇一样向我、向那把他刺中要害的东西喷吐毒液；因为最明显的是：（虽然他说这样一触即见，如此等等）他对我的论证触得如此轻，以致它们至今屹立不动；他若没有说「这样一触即见」，我们还不知道他究竟触到了没有。

Wherefore now lets see how my Arguments also by the word of God that the stars are both signs and causes, are still left also unrefelled, and so hasten to a conclusion.

所以现在让我们看看，我凭神的话证明诸星既是征兆、也是原因的那些论证，怎样同样仍未被驳倒，然后赶紧收尾。

CHAP. XVIII. That the stars are proved both signs and causes by the word of God; and the Art lawful, notwithstanding all their malice.

第十八章　诸星凭神的话被证明既是征兆、也是原因；不管他们怎样恶意，这门技艺都是合法的。

SO in my Lux Veritatis, chap. 2. Sect. 2. From these Texts you will finde I prove that the stars are both signs and causes, Gen. 1.14. Hos. 2.21. and Deut. 33.14. the which because it would here be too tedious to rehearse, I refer unto thee to peruse at thy own leisure; to all which thou shalt finde no other reply returned then this at the latter end of the 73. page.

所以在我的《真理之光》第二章第二节，你会发现我从这几处经文证明诸星既是征兆、也是原因：《创世记》第一章第十四节，《何西阿书》第二章第二十一节，以及《申命记》第三十三章第十四节；在这里复述它们就太冗长了，我请你在闲暇时自己去读；对这一切，你会发现他们给出的答复，只有第七十三页末尾的这一句。

The Doctor denies not that the stars are causes, and this I believe is granted me, because they knew no other reply, without rendring themselves ridiculous to the World; but if so. and (as it is farther granted) that he alloweth of Natural Astrology, and so consequently that the stars are also signs; let me ask any rational man what they argue against then, if the stars be confessed signs and causes of wind, hale, storms, tempests and alteration of weather? or how is it then unlawfull, Diabolical, or a doctrine of Devils, to practise or prognosticate thereby of these accidents? as Doctor Homes most wisely and discreetly termeth it:

博士并不否认诸星是原因；我相信这一点之所以向我让步，是因为他们不知道还有别的答复，免得在世人面前出丑；但如果是这样，而且（如他们进一步让步的）他容许自然占星学，那么诸星也就是征兆了；我请问任何讲理的人：既然承认诸星是风、冰雹、风暴、暴风雨与天气变化的征兆与原因，他们还在争什么呢？或者，凭着它们来施行、来预言这些事，又怎么会是不合法的、属魔鬼的，或者是鬼魔的道理——就像霍姆斯博士极其「明智审慎」地所称的那样呢？

And thus hast thou briefly been shewn the utmost of that discourse for the refelling of mine, by which you see, notwithstanding, Astrologie to remain in full force; that the stars have influence, and are both signs and causes warranted by the Divine Word of God.

这样，我已简要地向你指出，那篇论文为驳倒我的论文所能做的全部；由此你看到，占星学依然完全有效：诸星有影响，既是征兆、也是原因，有神圣的神的话为凭据。

It resteth therefore now, I only add this one place more in the 4. sect. of the 1. chap. of my Discourse, wherein I prove that the Art of Astrologie is not prohibited by the word of God, nor the study thereof by God himself, but rather by him allowed, and then shall conclude with a Relation of the power and subject of Astrologie, and how far it is by me defended or maintained, and pass over all the residue of that rabbling, railing reply as not worthy my notice.

所以现在只剩下：我只再补充我论文第一章第四节里的这一处，在那里我证明占星之术不为神的话所禁止，研究它也不为神自己所禁止，反而得到他的容许；然后就以一篇关于占星学的力量与对象、以及我为它辩护或主张它到什么程度的叙述来作结，那堆乌合的、谩骂的答复的其余部分，就都略过，不值得我理会。

In th t fourth Sect. (I say) proving the legality of Astrologie, and that God doth not prohibite the study thereof, as is clear by that testimony of the Holy Ghost by St. Stephen in the 7. of the Acts ver. 22. speaking in the commendation of Moses, he giveth him over and above the commendation aforesaid in that same 7. chap. this praise, That he was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and deeds, which (I say in that place) is clear to any rational man, That if it had been anywise sinfull, Diabolical or odious in the sight of God, Moses would not have applyed his study thereunto, or at least it would never have been recorded in his praise:

我说，在那第四节里，我证明占星学的合法性，证明神并不禁止研究它，这从圣灵借圣司提反在《使徒行传》第七章第二十二节所作的见证就很清楚：他称赞摩西，在同一第七章前面所说的称赞之外，还给他这样的赞美：他学了埃及人一切的学问，说话行事都有才能；（我在那里说）这对任何讲理的人都很清楚：如果那是有罪的、属魔鬼的，或在神眼中可憎的，摩西就不会致力于研究它，至少它也绝不会被记下来作为对他的称赞：

I might instance here Daniel, Solomon and others; but this is so clear that to insist longer hereon, were but vain; thus far I insisted in that place above quoted.

我本可以在这里举但以理、所罗门等人为例；但这一点如此清楚，再坚持下去就是徒劳；以上是我在前面所引的那个地方所坚持的。

Now as touching a Reply thereunto, they have none in the world, but a bold Assertion of an untruth in these words, pag. 38. of that Pamphlet, The Doctor hath fully answered that these Saints were not judicial Astrologers. But in what place, the Reader is left to to seek, which right Disputants are never guilty of; but catch either the Doctor or this Rufus, without an evasion or juggle, and — you may do what you will with them.

至于对此的答复，他们一个也没有，只有在那本小册子第三十八页用这句话大胆断言一件不实之事：博士已充分答复了：这些圣徒并不是判断星占家。但在什么地方答复的，就让读者自己去找了，真正的辩论者从不犯这种毛病；但你若能逮到博士或这位鲁弗斯有哪一回没有遁词或把戏，那——你爱怎样处置他们都行。

So also when I prove further, that Astrology is a lawful Art, being not prohibited by the Word of God, their Reply is, it is onely my passing my word for it; but I would fain see them pass any sound word or Argument against it, and not content themselves with these silly and weak come-offs.

同样，当我进一步证明占星学是一门合法的技艺、不为神的话所禁止时，他们的答复是：那只是我自己的一句担保；但我倒很想看他们拿出任何一句站得住的话或论证来反对它，而不是满足于这些愚蠢软弱的遁词。

Again, in that 4. Sect. I come further to shew that, We see by experience, that God doth (so far is he from disallowing and prohibiting the practice of Astrology) absolutely allow of both the Art and Artists, in his shewing of blazing-stars to them onely that study Astrology (not to the vulgar and proficient in other Arts) to forewarn his people of the danger and punishment to come; and if it were not so, he might as well shew signes of his future pleasure to the Illiterate by common vulgar things, as in heaven, to the learned Astrologer who can onely judge of their effects.

再者，在那第四节里，我进一步说明：我们凭经验看到，神（他远不是不容许、禁止占星学的实践）完全容许这门技艺和精通它的人，因为他只向研习占星学的人（而不是向俗人和精于别种技艺的人）显示彗星，好预先警告他的百姓将要来的危险与惩罚；若不是这样，他尽可以借普通寻常的东西向不识字的人显示他将来旨意的征兆，就像在天上向唯一能判断其效应的有学问的星占家显示一样。

Now but warily observe their Reply, and thou wilt have fit matter of laughter; for in the 38 page, they say that my alleadging that God shews blazing-stars onely to Astrologers, is a gross untruth, Confessed by thousands of the vulgar yet alive in England, who saw the blazing-star many nights that appeared afore the Swedish wars in Germany; for what hinders but shepherds, saylers, watch-men, and Illiterates should perceive that which is obvious to the common eys of man-kind, and distinguish a Comet from a star by his neerness, moti n, and his feather or long taile?

现在只请你仔细看他们的答复，你就有可笑的材料了；因为他们在第三十八页说，我断言神只向星占家显示彗星，是一个大谎，在英格兰至今还活着的成千上万俗人都会这样说，他们许多个夜晚都看见了德意志的瑞典战争之前出现的那颗彗星；因为有什么妨碍牧羊人、水手、守夜人和不识字的人看见人类共同的眼睛都显然能看见的东西，并凭它的近、它的运动、以及它的羽毛或长尾巴，把彗星与恒星区别开来呢？

And truly herein they have told us a long tale to no purpose; for should I deny that such things can be discerned that are obvious to the common sense of seeing, I should indeed render my selfe as ridiculous as they have in not apprehending my words, who deny not in the least, but that they may plainly be seen of Sailers, Watchmen, Shepheards, illiterate Hay-makers, also dolts and Asses if they be not blind or asleep, which is nothing at all to my Argument; for I was to let my Reader know that God more especially (allowing of the study and contemplation of his heavenly creatures in his servants) sheweth such things as are Comets and Blazing-stars to Astrologers onely;

说实在的，他们在这上面给我们讲了一个毫无意义的长故事；因为我若否认凡是寻常视觉显然能辨别的东西都能被辨别，那我就真的使自己同他们一样可笑了——他们没有领会我的话；我丝毫不否认这些东西能被水手、守夜人、牧羊人、不识字的割草工，还有笨蛋和驴子清楚地看见，只要他们不瞎、不睡着，这与我的论证毫不相干；因为我是要让我的读者知道：神（他容许他的仆人研究、观照他天上的造物）特别把彗星、扫帚星这类东西只显示给星占家；

I say because they onely of all other men, are the ablest to judge of their effects and portences, that the people might be forewarned of their misery and the like; for otherwise he might shew his wonders in common vulgar things.

我说，因为在一切人之中，只有他们最能判断它们的效应与预兆，好使百姓预先得到关于他们的苦难之类的警告；不然的话，他就可以在普通寻常的东西上显示他的奇事了。

But if we observe, it is wonderful to see how learnedly these zealous blades by this their Reply prove that God (contrary to what I have alleadged) doth not in the least allow of Astrology, or the Students thereof, by this his shewing of Comets or Blazing-stars; and that this my Argument conduced not to the validity of the Art or Artists, and not to come off so blewly to argue on what was never affirmed; but poor men they are to be excused come once to talk to them of Comets and Blazing-stars, and you put them quite out of their sphear: therefore I shall onely propound this question to them, and look for an Answer when they are able to understand English; they say I am shamefully out in my Latin, because I interpret not the words of the Bachharen Councell verbatim, but deliver the sense of them.

但我们若留意一下，就会惊奇地看到，这些热心的家伙用他们这个答复多么博学地证明：神（与我所举的相反）借他显示彗星或扫帚星，丝毫没有容许占星学或研习它的人；证明我这个论证无助于这门技艺及其精通者的效力；而不是这样拙劣地脱身，去争论从来没有人断言过的东西；不过这些可怜人情有可原，一同他们谈起彗星和扫帚星，就把他们完全弄出了他们的天球；所以我只向他们提一个问题，等他们能懂英语时再等他们的答复；他们说我的拉丁文大错，因为我没有逐字解释巴卡伦会议的话，而是传达了它的意思。

I thought I had writ to men, which would have been content with the sense, and not to children that must have it word by word expounded; but however, this must needs be a Bull to affirm that therefore I was out in my Latin, but they cannot deny they are in this place out in their English, which is a far greater fault, and deserves both the ferula and flagellum, and therefore I say I shall onely ask them this question. because they understand neither English, sense nor honesty, for perhaps thereby they may come to understand what I said; viz. whether it was the Astrologer I spake of, or the Shepheard, Sailer, Watchmen, and Illiterates they speak of, that told them the Comet in 1618. foreshewed the Swedish wars in Germany, that they talk of?

我原以为我是写给大人看的，他们满足于知道意思就够了，而不是写给孩子看的，孩子才必须逐字逐句地讲解；但无论如何，因此就断言我的拉丁文出错，这必定是一句自相矛盾的妙语；而他们不能否认，他们在这个地方英语出了错，这是大得多的过错，既该挨戒尺，也该挨鞭子；所以我说，我只问他们这个问题。因为他们既不懂英语，也不懂道理，也不懂诚实，也许借此他们能明白我所说的是什么；即：一六一八年的彗星预示了他们所说的德意志的瑞典战争，告诉他们这件事的，是我所说的星占家呢，还是他们所说的牧羊人、水手、守夜人和不识字的人？