卷二·第八十章 长老制能否维持
莉莉自起一盘问长老制能否在英格兰维持:第九宫金牛有游离的土星,诸星多失势,月亮奔向火木四分。断它不能照原样维持。
If Presbytery shall stand ?
Judgment upon the Figure abovesaid.
The angles of the Figure are common, and not fixed, but the Signe of the ninth, from which at present judgment must be naturally deduced, is ♉, a fixed, stable Signe, and from ♄ in the Terms of ♃, who is therein posited, a slow and ponderous Planet ♃ ; a generall Significator in Religion, Religious Rites and Ceremonies is now standing to Direction ; and is departing out of his Exaltation, having been a long time Retrograde therein, and now at present impedited by ♂ : after his transit out of ♋, he enters the fixed Sign ♌, and into the Terms of ♄ ; but in the first six degrees thereof he meets with severall obnoxious fixed Starres, and thence passes into the Termes of ☿, who is now in the Signe ♓ his Fall ; yet angular, entred into the Decanate of ♂.
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If Presbytery shall stand ?
长老制能否维持?
Judgment upon the Figure abovesaid.
对上面这张盘的判断。
The angles of the Figure are common, and not fixed, but the Signe of the ninth, from which at present judgment must be naturally deduced, is ♉, a fixed, stable Signe, and from ♄ in the Terms of ♃, who is therein posited, a slow and ponderous Planet ♃ ; a generall Significator in Religion, Religious Rites and Ceremonies is now standing to Direction ; and is departing out of his Exaltation, having been a long time Retrograde therein, and now at present impedited by ♂ : after his transit out of ♋, he enters the fixed Sign ♌, and into the Terms of ♄ ; but in the first six degrees thereof he meets with severall obnoxious fixed Starres, and thence passes into the Termes of ☿, who is now in the Signe ♓ his Fall ; yet angular, entred into the Decanate of ♂.
这张盘的四角都是双体星座,不是固定星座,但第九宫的星座,即眼下判断必须自然地从中推出的那个星座,是金牛,一个固定、稳定的星座;判断也要从在其中的土星推出,他在木星的界里,是一颗迟缓沉重的行星;木星是宗教、宗教礼仪与仪式的总征象星,现在正停留将转顺行;他正要离开自己的旺宫,在那里逆行了很久,现在又受火星所阻:他从巨蟹过境之后,进入固定星座狮子,进入土星的界;但在狮子的前六度里,他会遇到几颗有害的恒星,之后进入水星的界,水星现在在双鱼,即他的落;不过居角,已进入火星的面。
大意与图解点开
🔎 大意:四角是双体星座,第九宫是固定的金牛,内有在木星界里的土星。宗教的总征象星木星停留将顺行,正要出旺宫,又受火星所阻。
📖 术语
| 术语 | 英文原词 | 意思 |
|---|---|---|
| 长老制 | Presbytery | 由长老治理教会之制 |
| 停留将转顺行 | standing to Direction | 留而将顺行 |
| 总征象星 | generall Significator | 自然征象星 |
| 有害的恒星 | obnoxious fixed Starres | 性凶的恒星 |
| 面 | Decanate | 星座内十度一段 |
🧭 图解与讲解
本章是莉莉为时事自起的一盘,问长老制(由长老治理教会的制度)能否在英格兰维持。图一是原书例盘:盘心记一六四六/七年三月十一日、星期四、下午四时四十五分,时主水星,月亮离开金星的对冲,去成火星与木星的四分。当时英国旧历以三月二十五日为岁首,三月十一日按旧历仍属一六四六年,按新年算已是一六四七年,所以盘上写成「一六四六/七」两说并记;按历法推算,那天正是星期四。时刻是民用的下午,不是天文时。原书是圆形盘,本站照方形盘版式重画。
〔图〕长老制盘:处女上升,四角双体;第九宫金牛,内有游离的土星
〔图〕实算方盘:1647 年 3 月 11 日(儒略历)伦敦视太阳时 16:45
| 星/宫头 | 原书 | 实算 | 差 | 原因 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 福点 | 双鱼 29°35′ | 白羊 0°15′ | −0°40′ | 古表系统误差 |
| 征象 | 盘上所见 | 莉莉的读法 |
|---|---|---|
| 四角 | 处女、射手、双鱼、双子,都是双体星座 | 不是固定 |
| 第九宫(宗教) | 宫头金牛5°,固定稳定 | 判断由此推出 |
| 第九宫内 | 土星金牛15°18′,在木星的界(金牛15°–22°) | 迟缓沉重 |
| 木星 | 巨蟹28°24′,停留将转顺行;火星巨蟹25°40′紧邻 | 宗教的总征象星,受火星所阻 |
| 木星的去路 | 入狮子:前六度是土星的界,有几颗凶恒星;再入水星的界 | 前路不顺 |
判断从第九宫(宗教)入手(表四)。四角都是双体星座,本主变动;但第九宫是固定的金牛,宫内有土星,这是全盘最要紧的一处。土星在金牛十五度十八分,按莉莉所用的界表落在木星的界里。
再看宗教的总征象星木星:他在巨蟹二十八度二十四分,盘上注「留」,正停留将转顺行;巨蟹是他的旺,他在那里逆行了很久,现在要离开了,火星又紧贴在旁妨碍他。木星出巨蟹后入狮子,前六度是土星的界,莉莉说那里有几颗有害的恒星,再往后是水星的界,而水星此刻在双鱼,是他的落,只是居于角宫、在火星的面里。
本站实算(图二、表三):按儒略历 1647 年 3 月 11 日、伦敦视太阳时 16:45(地方平时 16:52,合世界时 16:53)起盘,用现代历表与莉莉同用的 Regiomontanus 宫制重算。盘上「1646/7,3 月 11 日星期四」,即今法 1647 年;儒略历 1647 年 3 月 11 日正是星期四。七星都在 15′ 内。原书与实算相差 1° 以上(或星座不同)的共 1 处:福点(古表系统误差),差异表逐项列出,两盘上都标红。改正只见于实算盘与差异表,莉莉的论断照原书。
📖 术语
| 术语 | 英文原词 | 意思 |
|---|---|---|
| 长老制 | Presbytery | 由长老治理教会之制 |
| 停留将转顺行 | standing to Direction | 留而将顺行 |
| 总征象星 | generall Significator | 自然征象星 |
| 有害的恒星 | obnoxious fixed Starres | 性凶的恒星 |
| 面 | Decanate | 星座内十度一段 |
🧭 图解与讲解
本章是莉莉为时事自起的一盘,问长老制(由长老治理教会的制度)能否在英格兰维持。图一是原书例盘:盘心记一六四六/七年三月十一日、星期四、下午四时四十五分,时主水星,月亮离开金星的对冲,去成火星与木星的四分。当时英国旧历以三月二十五日为岁首,三月十一日按旧历仍属一六四六年,按新年算已是一六四七年,所以盘上写成「一六四六/七」两说并记;按历法推算,那天正是星期四。时刻是民用的下午,不是天文时。原书是圆形盘,本站照方形盘版式重画。
| 星/宫头 | 原书 | 实算 | 差 | 原因 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 福点 | 双鱼 29°35′ | 白羊 0°15′ | −0°40′ | 古表系统误差 |
| 征象 | 盘上所见 | 莉莉的读法 |
|---|---|---|
| 四角 | 处女、射手、双鱼、双子,都是双体星座 | 不是固定 |
| 第九宫(宗教) | 宫头金牛5°,固定稳定 | 判断由此推出 |
| 第九宫内 | 土星金牛15°18′,在木星的界(金牛15°–22°) | 迟缓沉重 |
| 木星 | 巨蟹28°24′,停留将转顺行;火星巨蟹25°40′紧邻 | 宗教的总征象星,受火星所阻 |
| 木星的去路 | 入狮子:前六度是土星的界,有几颗凶恒星;再入水星的界 | 前路不顺 |
判断从第九宫(宗教)入手(表四)。四角都是双体星座,本主变动;但第九宫是固定的金牛,宫内有土星,这是全盘最要紧的一处。土星在金牛十五度十八分,按莉莉所用的界表落在木星的界里。
再看宗教的总征象星木星:他在巨蟹二十八度二十四分,盘上注「留」,正停留将转顺行;巨蟹是他的旺,他在那里逆行了很久,现在要离开了,火星又紧贴在旁妨碍他。木星出巨蟹后入狮子,前六度是土星的界,莉莉说那里有几颗有害的恒星,再往后是水星的界,而水星此刻在双鱼,是他的落,只是居于角宫、在火星的面里。
本站实算(图二、表三):按儒略历 1647 年 3 月 11 日、伦敦视太阳时 16:45(地方平时 16:52,合世界时 16:53)起盘,用现代历表与莉莉同用的 Regiomontanus 宫制重算。盘上「1646/7,3 月 11 日星期四」,即今法 1647 年;儒略历 1647 年 3 月 11 日正是星期四。七星都在 15′ 内。原书与实算相差 1° 以上(或星座不同)的共 1 处:福点(古表系统误差),差异表逐项列出,两盘上都标红。改正只见于实算盘与差异表,莉莉的论断照原书。
[ᵃ The Gentry of England will oppose it.] [ᵇ ♂ Lord of the ascendant of England, the generality or whole Kingdome will distaste it.] We find ♀ Lady of the ninth house in ♈ her Detriment, and in the eight of the Figure, but twelft house from her own viz. ♉, now the cusp of the ninth : and if you observe ♀ well, she hath one and twenty degrees to passe through the Signe of ♈, and these degrees all in the eighth house, ere she get into ♉ where she may possible fix, or at least would ; but before she fully get out of this movable Signe ♈, she first hath occurse to the sinister □ of ᵃ ♃, then of ᵇ ♂, all three in the Termes of ♄ : this might have produced some materiall effects, if ♄ had been essentially Fortified where he is, or if Presbytery had any relation to Monkery, or if it had been the first beginning of a Religious Order.
Let us take all the Planets as posited, and there's not a Planet fixed except ♄, nor any essentially dignified but ♃, and he impedited by ♂ ; the ☽ is entring via combusta, ♂ is in his Fall, ☿ in his, ♀ in her Detriment.
[ᶜ The Presbytery will struggle hard, and wrangle stoutly.] We have the ☽ separating from ♀ in the eighth, then going to be vacua cursus, afterwards she squares with ᶜ ♂, then with ♃ : From these configurations we shall naturally frame our judgment, not positive or affirmative, but conjecturall, onely out of a desire that posterity may see there's some verity in Astrology, and the Clergies just cause to carp at the Art if I lye : and we hope herein, that we shall no more offend in writing the Astrall intention of the heavenly bodyes, ( deduced from reasons in Art) then those who daily (pleno ore) and publickly deliver amongst hundreds their conceptions, though repugnant to the opinion of very many now alive.
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[ᵃ The Gentry of England will oppose it.] [ᵇ ♂ Lord of the ascendant of England, the generality or whole Kingdome will distaste it.] We find ♀ Lady of the ninth house in ♈ her Detriment, and in the eight of the Figure, but twelft house from her own viz. ♉, now the cusp of the ninth : and if you observe ♀ well, she hath one and twenty degrees to passe through the Signe of ♈, and these degrees all in the eighth house, ere she get into ♉ where she may possible fix, or at least would ; but before she fully get out of this movable Signe ♈, she first hath occurse to the sinister □ of ᵃ ♃, then of ᵇ ♂, all three in the Termes of ♄ : this might have produced some materiall effects, if ♄ had been essentially Fortified where he is, or if Presbytery had any relation to Monkery, or if it had been the first beginning of a Religious Order.
[甲:英格兰的士绅会反对它。][乙:火星是英格兰上升之主,全国大众都会厌恶它。]我们发现第九宫的主星金星在白羊,她的陷,在盘的第八宫,却是从她自己的庙,即金牛,现在的第九宫宫头,数起的第十二宫:你若仔细观察金星,她还有二十一度要走完白羊,这些度数都在第八宫里,然后才进入金牛,她在那里也许能稳定下来,至少想要如此;但在她完全走出这个启动星座白羊之前,她先遇到木星(甲)的左方四分,然后遇到火星(乙)的左方四分,三者都在土星的界里:这本可能产生某些实际的后果,若土星在他所在之处有必然尊贵的加强,或若长老制与修道制度有什么关联,或若这是某个修会的初创。
Let us take all the Planets as posited, and there's not a Planet fixed except ♄, nor any essentially dignified but ♃, and he impedited by ♂ ; the ☽ is entring via combusta, ♂ is in his Fall, ☿ in his, ♀ in her Detriment.
我们把所有行星照其位置来看,除了土星,没有一颗在固定星座,除了木星,也没有一颗有必然尊贵,而木星又受火星所阻;月亮正进入焦伤之途,火星在他的落,水星在他的落,金星在她的陷。
[ᶜ The Presbytery will struggle hard, and wrangle stoutly.] We have the ☽ separating from ♀ in the eighth, then going to be vacua cursus, afterwards she squares with ᶜ ♂, then with ♃ : From these configurations we shall naturally frame our judgment, not positive or affirmative, but conjecturall, onely out of a desire that posterity may see there's some verity in Astrology, and the Clergies just cause to carp at the Art if I lye : and we hope herein, that we shall no more offend in writing the Astrall intention of the heavenly bodyes, ( deduced from reasons in Art) then those who daily (pleno ore) and publickly deliver amongst hundreds their conceptions, though repugnant to the opinion of very many now alive.
[丙:长老制会拼命挣扎,顽强争辩。]我们看到月亮离开在第八宫的金星,接着将要空亡,之后她与火星(丙)成四分,再与木星成四分:我们将从这些格局自然地作出判断,不是肯定或断言,而是推测,只是出于一个心愿,让后人看到占星学里有些真理,而若我说谎,教士们就有正当理由挑剔这门学问:我们希望,在这件事上,我们写出诸天体在星象上的意向(由本门学问的道理推出),所冒犯的不会多于那些天天(满口)公开在数百人当中宣讲自己见解的人,尽管他们的见解与今天许多在世的人的看法相悖。
大意与图解点开
🔎 大意:第九宫主金星在白羊(陷)、第八宫,出白羊前先遇木火的左方四分。诸星多失势,只木星有尊贵;月亮将空亡,再四分火木。
📖 术语
| 术语 | 英文原词 | 意思 |
|---|---|---|
| 陷 | Detriment | 庙的对面 |
| 左方四分 | sinister □ | 顺星座次序投出 |
| 落 | Fall | 旺的对面 |
| 焦伤之途 | via combusta | 天秤中至天蝎中 |
| 空亡 | vacua cursus | 不再成相位 |
🧭 图解与讲解
第九宫宫头金牛属金星,所以金星是第九宫主星,也代表长老制。她在白羊,是她的陷,又在第八宫,从她自己的庙金牛数起是第十二宫,处境很差。莉莉说她要走完白羊余下的二十一度才入金牛,到那里也许能稳定下来;但出白羊之前,她先遇木星的左方四分,再遇火星的左方四分(图一)。左方四分指顺星座次序投出的四分,从巨蟹投到白羊正是这样。
〔图〕金星的去路:还没走出白羊,先撞上木星、火星的四分
| 行星 | 所在 | 状态 |
|---|---|---|
| 土星 | 金牛15°18′ | 唯一在固定星座;游离 |
| 木星 | 巨蟹28°24′ | 唯一有必然尊贵(旺),受火星所阻 |
| 火星 | 巨蟹25°40′ | 落 |
| 水星 | 双鱼20°10′ | 落 |
| 金星 | 白羊9°16′ | 陷 |
| 月亮 | 天秤13°37′ | 正入焦伤之途;离金星,将空亡,再四分火、木 |
原书在这里有两条页边注,以小字母标在木星、火星旁:一条说英格兰的士绅会反对它,一条说火星是英格兰上升之主,全国大众都会厌恶它。本站以「甲」「乙」「丙」代替原书的小字母。莉莉又说,若土星在所在之处有尊贵,或长老制与修道制度相关,或这是一个修会的初创,这些格局本会产生更实在的后果。
接着总看诸星(表二):只有土星在固定星座,只有木星有尊贵,却又受火星所阻;月亮正入焦伤之途,火星、水星在落,金星在陷。月亮离开金星的对冲后将空亡,再去四分火星与木星,页边注丙说长老制会拼命挣扎、顽强争辩。莉莉特别声明这是推测而非断言,只为让后人看到占星学有真理;他自比那些天天当众宣讲己见的人,说自己并不比他们更冒犯人。
📖 术语
| 术语 | 英文原词 | 意思 |
|---|---|---|
| 陷 | Detriment | 庙的对面 |
| 左方四分 | sinister □ | 顺星座次序投出 |
| 落 | Fall | 旺的对面 |
| 焦伤之途 | via combusta | 天秤中至天蝎中 |
| 空亡 | vacua cursus | 不再成相位 |
🧭 图解与讲解
第九宫宫头金牛属金星,所以金星是第九宫主星,也代表长老制。她在白羊,是她的陷,又在第八宫,从她自己的庙金牛数起是第十二宫,处境很差。莉莉说她要走完白羊余下的二十一度才入金牛,到那里也许能稳定下来;但出白羊之前,她先遇木星的左方四分,再遇火星的左方四分(图一)。左方四分指顺星座次序投出的四分,从巨蟹投到白羊正是这样。
| 行星 | 所在 | 状态 |
|---|---|---|
| 土星 | 金牛15°18′ | 唯一在固定星座;游离 |
| 木星 | 巨蟹28°24′ | 唯一有必然尊贵(旺),受火星所阻 |
| 火星 | 巨蟹25°40′ | 落 |
| 水星 | 双鱼20°10′ | 落 |
| 金星 | 白羊9°16′ | 陷 |
| 月亮 | 天秤13°37′ | 正入焦伤之途;离金星,将空亡,再四分火、木 |
原书在这里有两条页边注,以小字母标在木星、火星旁:一条说英格兰的士绅会反对它,一条说火星是英格兰上升之主,全国大众都会厌恶它。本站以「甲」「乙」「丙」代替原书的小字母。莉莉又说,若土星在所在之处有尊贵,或长老制与修道制度相关,或这是一个修会的初创,这些格局本会产生更实在的后果。
接着总看诸星(表二):只有土星在固定星座,只有木星有尊贵,却又受火星所阻;月亮正入焦伤之途,火星、水星在落,金星在陷。月亮离开金星的对冲后将空亡,再去四分火星与木星,页边注丙说长老制会拼命挣扎、顽强争辩。莉莉特别声明这是推测而非断言,只为让后人看到占星学有真理;他自比那些天天当众宣讲己见的人,说自己并不比他们更冒犯人。
The positure of ♄ in the ninth who is naturally of a severe, surly, rigid and harsh temper, may argue, the Presbytery shall be too strict, sullen and dogged for the English Constitutions, little gentle or compliant with the natures of the generality, and that there shall spring up amongst themselves many strange and fearfull opinions and distractions even concerning this very Presbytery now mentioned, that they shall grow excessive covetous, contentious, and desirous of more then belongs unto them, worldly, envious and malicious one against another; that amongst them some Juniors represented by ♀, shall be but of light judgment, wave and decline the strictnesse of this Discipline; that the Elder, represented by ♄, shall not be respected by reason of their too much rigidnesse, or shall their Orthodox opinions be consented unto.
♄ is Peregrine, Occidentall, &c. fortified by no essentiall Dignity, or supported with the favourable aspect of either of the Fortunes; there's Reception betwixt the ☽ and him, but no aspect: ☿ Lord of the tenth signifying Authority, is separated and separateth apace from ♄, as if the Gentry, or supreamest people of this Kingdome, doe in part decline from the severity of the too too austere Clergy or Presbytery, mistrusting a Thraldome rather then a Freedome to ensue hereupon.
[The Souldiery will distaste it] If you would know who shall most afflict, or who shall begin the dance, or most of all oppose it? ♄ represents the Countryman, for he afflicting the house properly signifying Presbytery shewes the cause; this in few words expresses, it will not stand or continue (statu quo:) Remove ♄, viz. Covetousnes, Rigidnes, Maliciousnesse, &c. then there may be more hopes that it might, but yet it will not stand (ita in fatis.)

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The positure of ♄ in the ninth who is naturally of a severe, surly, rigid and harsh temper, may argue, the Presbytery shall be too strict, sullen and dogged for the English Constitutions, little gentle or compliant with the natures of the generality, and that there shall spring up amongst themselves many strange and fearfull opinions and distractions even concerning this very Presbytery now mentioned, that they shall grow excessive covetous, contentious, and desirous of more then belongs unto them, worldly, envious and malicious one against another; that amongst them some Juniors represented by ♀, shall be but of light judgment, wave and decline the strictnesse of this Discipline; that the Elder, represented by ♄, shall not be respected by reason of their too much rigidnesse, or shall their Orthodox opinions be consented unto.
土星在第九宫,他天性严厉、阴沉、僵硬而苛刻,可以表明长老制对英格兰人的体质来说会太严、太沉闷、太倔强,对大众的天性不够温和顺应,他们内部会生出许多奇怪可怕的意见与分裂,甚至就针对这里所说的长老制本身,他们会变得过度贪婪、好争,想要超出自己本分的东西,世俗、嫉妒,彼此怀恨;他们当中由金星代表的一些年轻人,判断轻浮,会动摇并背离这套规条的严格;由土星代表的长者,会因过于僵硬而不受尊重,他们的正统意见也不会得到认同。
♄ is Peregrine, Occidentall, &c. fortified by no essentiall Dignity, or supported with the favourable aspect of either of the Fortunes; there's Reception betwixt the ☽ and him, but no aspect: ☿ Lord of the tenth signifying Authority, is separated and separateth apace from ♄, as if the Gentry, or supreamest people of this Kingdome, doe in part decline from the severity of the too too austere Clergy or Presbytery, mistrusting a Thraldome rather then a Freedome to ensue hereupon.
土星游离、西入等等,没有任何必然尊贵加强,也没有任一吉星的有利相位扶持;月亮与他之间有接纳,但没有相位:第十宫之主水星主权柄,已经离开并正迅速远离土星,好像这个王国的士绅或最高阶层的人,在某种程度上正背离那太过严苛的教士或长老制的严厉,疑心随之而来的是奴役而不是自由。
[The Souldiery will distaste it] If you would know who shall most afflict, or who shall begin the dance, or most of all oppose it? ♄ represents the Countryman, for he afflicting the house properly signifying Presbytery shewes the cause; this in few words expresses, it will not stand or continue (statu quo:) Remove ♄, viz. Covetousnes, Rigidnes, Maliciousnesse, &c. then there may be more hopes that it might, but yet it will not stand (ita in fatis.)
[军人会厌恶它。]你若想知道谁最会折磨它,或谁会领头起事,或谁最反对它?土星代表乡下人,因为他侵害那正主长老制的宫,显示出原因;这几句话就表明它不会照原样维持或延续:除去土星,即贪婪、僵硬、恶意等等,那么它维持下去的希望或许会大些,但它还是维持不下去(命中如此。)
大意与图解点开
🔎 大意:土星严厉而在第九宫:长老制太严,内部生分裂贪争;金星代表的年轻人背离,土星代表的长者不受敬。水星离土星:权贵疏远。
📖 术语
| 术语 | 英文原词 | 意思 |
|---|---|---|
| 游离 | Peregrine | 无任何必然尊贵 |
| 西入 | Occidentall | 在太阳之后 |
| 规条 | Discipline | 教会的纪律制度 |
| 照原样 | statu quo | 拉丁语,原状 |
| 命中如此 | ita in fatis | 拉丁语,天命所定 |
🧭 图解与讲解
土星在第九宫是全章的核心(表二)。土星天性严厉、阴沉、僵硬,所以莉莉推测长老制对英格兰人来说太严太倔,不够顺应大众;土星又主贪婪与怨恨,所以内部会生出种种意见与分裂,贪婪好争。年轻一辈由金星代表,金星轻浮,会背离严格的规条;长者由土星代表,因太过僵硬而不受尊重。
〔图〕土星在第九宫是全盘的病根:太严、不受敬、无助
| 盘上所见 | 莉莉的推测 |
|---|---|
| 土星严厉而在第九宫 | 长老制对英格兰人太严太倔 |
| 土星本性贪婪阴沉 | 内部生分裂,贪婪好争 |
| 金星代表年轻人 | 轻浮者动摇背离 |
| 土星代表长者、游离无助 | 长者因僵硬不受尊重 |
| 第十宫主水星离开土星 | 士绅权贵疏远,疑是奴役 |
| 土星代表乡下人,侵害第九宫 | 最反对它的人;它不能照原样维持 |
土星本身毫无助力(图一):游离(没有任何必然尊贵)、西入,也没有吉星的有利相位扶持。月亮与他互相接纳(各在对方的旺),却没有相位,帮不上忙。第十宫(双子)之主水星主权柄,刚离开与土星的六分并迅速远去,莉莉读作国中的士绅权贵在疏远这套严苛的制度,怕它带来的是奴役而非自由。
谁最反对它?页边注说军人会厌恶它;正文说土星代表乡下人,他侵害第九宫,就是原因所在。莉莉断它不能照原样(拉丁语 statu quo)维持,除去贪婪、僵硬、恶意,或许希望大些,但终究维持不下去,「命中如此」。这些都是原书对当时教会制度的推测,本站照原文平实译出,不加评论。
📖 术语
| 术语 | 英文原词 | 意思 |
|---|---|---|
| 游离 | Peregrine | 无任何必然尊贵 |
| 西入 | Occidentall | 在太阳之后 |
| 规条 | Discipline | 教会的纪律制度 |
| 照原样 | statu quo | 拉丁语,原状 |
| 命中如此 | ita in fatis | 拉丁语,天命所定 |
🧭 图解与讲解
土星在第九宫是全章的核心(表二)。土星天性严厉、阴沉、僵硬,所以莉莉推测长老制对英格兰人来说太严太倔,不够顺应大众;土星又主贪婪与怨恨,所以内部会生出种种意见与分裂,贪婪好争。年轻一辈由金星代表,金星轻浮,会背离严格的规条;长者由土星代表,因太过僵硬而不受尊重。
| 盘上所见 | 莉莉的推测 |
|---|---|
| 土星严厉而在第九宫 | 长老制对英格兰人太严太倔 |
| 土星本性贪婪阴沉 | 内部生分裂,贪婪好争 |
| 金星代表年轻人 | 轻浮者动摇背离 |
| 土星代表长者、游离无助 | 长者因僵硬不受尊重 |
| 第十宫主水星离开土星 | 士绅权贵疏远,疑是奴役 |
| 土星代表乡下人,侵害第九宫 | 最反对它的人;它不能照原样维持 |
土星本身毫无助力(图一):游离(没有任何必然尊贵)、西入,也没有吉星的有利相位扶持。月亮与他互相接纳(各在对方的旺),却没有相位,帮不上忙。第十宫(双子)之主水星主权柄,刚离开与土星的六分并迅速远去,莉莉读作国中的士绅权贵在疏远这套严苛的制度,怕它带来的是奴役而非自由。
谁最反对它?页边注说军人会厌恶它;正文说土星代表乡下人,他侵害第九宫,就是原因所在。莉莉断它不能照原样(拉丁语 statu quo)维持,除去贪婪、僵硬、恶意,或许希望大些,但终究维持不下去,「命中如此」。这些都是原书对当时教会制度的推测,本站照原文平实译出,不加评论。
Three whole yeers from hence shall not passe, ere Authority it selfe, or some divince Providence informe our understanding with a way in Discipline or Government, either more neer to the former purity of the primitive times, or more beloved of the whole Kingdome of England, or Authority shall in this space of time moderate many things now stifly desired:
For some time we shall not discover what shall be established, but all shall be even as when there was no King in Israel, a confusion among us shall yet a while remaine: the Souldiery then, or some men of fiery Spirits wil arise, and keep back their Contribution from the Clergy, and will deny obedience or submission to this thing we call Presbytery; it will then come to be handled by the Magistrate, and taken into consideration by the grand Authority of the Kingdome; yea, and by the plurality of the Clegy-men of England, or men of very sound judgments, it will be contradicted, disputed against, disapproved; and these shall make it manifest, this very Presbytery now maintained, is not the same the Common-wealth of England will entertaine, as a standing rule, for it to live under, or be governed by.
From what I doe find by this Figure, I conclude, that Presbytery shall not stand here in England (statu quo) without refining and amending, and demolishing many scrupulous matters urged at present by the Clergy; for if we consider ♃ as Lord of the fourth, we find the ☽, in plaine language, (after a little being voyd of course) run hastily to the □ of ♂ and ♃; intimating, the Commonalty will defraud the expectation of the Clergy, and so strongly oppose them, that the end hereof shall wholly delude the expectation of the Clergy.
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Three whole yeers from hence shall not passe, ere Authority it selfe, or some divince Providence informe our understanding with a way in Discipline or Government, either more neer to the former purity of the primitive times, or more beloved of the whole Kingdome of England, or Authority shall in this space of time moderate many things now stifly desired:
从现在起不出整整三年,权柄本身,或某种神圣的天意,会使我们明白一种在规条或治理上的办法,或者更接近原始时代从前的纯洁,或者更受整个英格兰王国的喜爱,或者权柄会在这段时间里缓和许多现在被顽固要求的事:
For some time we shall not discover what shall be established, but all shall be even as when there was no King in Israel, a confusion among us shall yet a while remaine: the Souldiery then, or some men of fiery Spirits wil arise, and keep back their Contribution from the Clergy, and will deny obedience or submission to this thing we call Presbytery; it will then come to be handled by the Magistrate, and taken into consideration by the grand Authority of the Kingdome; yea, and by the plurality of the Clegy-men of England, or men of very sound judgments, it will be contradicted, disputed against, disapproved; and these shall make it manifest, this very Presbytery now maintained, is not the same the Common-wealth of England will entertaine, as a standing rule, for it to live under, or be governed by.
有一段时间,我们看不出会确立什么,而一切都会如同以色列中没有王的时候,混乱还要在我们当中持续一阵:那时军人,或某些火爆性子的人,会起来扣住他们给教士的捐输,拒绝服从这个我们称为长老制的东西;那时它将交由官长处理,由王国的最高权力加以审议;是的,英格兰的大多数神职人员,或判断极为健全的人,会反驳它、与之争辩、不予认可;而这些人会表明,现在所维护的这个长老制,并不是英格兰国家愿意接受作为长久规条、在其下生活或受其治理的那一种。
From what I doe find by this Figure, I conclude, that Presbytery shall not stand here in England (statu quo) without refining and amending, and demolishing many scrupulous matters urged at present by the Clergy; for if we consider ♃ as Lord of the fourth, we find the ☽, in plaine language, (after a little being voyd of course) run hastily to the □ of ♂ and ♃; intimating, the Commonalty will defraud the expectation of the Clergy, and so strongly oppose them, that the end hereof shall wholly delude the expectation of the Clergy.
从这张盘里我所找到的,我的结论是:长老制在英格兰不会(照原样)维持,除非加以修正改良,并废去教士们现在力主的许多琐细之事;因为若我们把木星当作第四宫之主来看,我们看到月亮,用平白的话说,(在短暂空亡之后)急急奔向火星与木星的四分;这表示平民会辜负教士的期望,并强烈反对他们,以致这事的结局会完全落空教士的期望。
大意与图解点开
🔎 大意:三年之内会有更近原始纯洁或更得民心的办法;其间一片混乱,军人扣住捐输,官长审议,多数神职者反对。结论:不能照原样维持。
📖 术语
| 术语 | 英文原词 | 意思 |
|---|---|---|
| 原始时代 | primitive times | 早期教会 |
| 捐输 | Contribution | 供养教士的钱 |
| 官长 | Magistrate | 执掌治理的人 |
| 平民 | Commonalty | 一般百姓 |
| 琐细之事 | scrupulous matters | 拘泥的细节 |
🧭 图解与讲解
最后三行是莉莉的推测与结论。他以三年为限(图一):不出三年,或由权柄、或由天意,会出现一种更接近原始教会纯洁、或更得全国喜爱的办法,或者权柄会缓和许多现在被顽固要求的事。其间先有一段混乱,「如同以色列中没有王的时候」,这是《旧约·士师记》里的话,形容无人做主、各行其是。
〔图〕莉莉推测的过程:混乱、抵制、审议、改弦更张
〔图〕结论的依据:木星作第四宫主(平民),月亮急奔火木四分
他推测军人或性子火爆的人会扣住给教士的捐输,拒绝服从;事情交由官长与王国的最高权力审议;多数神职人员和判断健全的人也会反对。末了的结论(图二):长老制不能照原样在英格兰维持,除非修正改良、废去许多琐细的规矩。依据是把木星当作第四宫(射手)之主,代表平民,月亮在短暂空亡之后急奔火星与木星的四分,主平民与教士相违,教士的期望落空。
本章是军国、宗教大事的推测,莉莉自己说「不是肯定或断言,而是推测」。本站只照书中所说翻译与说明盘上的根据,不评论,也不补入书外的史实。
📖 术语
| 术语 | 英文原词 | 意思 |
|---|---|---|
| 原始时代 | primitive times | 早期教会 |
| 捐输 | Contribution | 供养教士的钱 |
| 官长 | Magistrate | 执掌治理的人 |
| 平民 | Commonalty | 一般百姓 |
| 琐细之事 | scrupulous matters | 拘泥的细节 |
🧭 图解与讲解
最后三行是莉莉的推测与结论。他以三年为限(图一):不出三年,或由权柄、或由天意,会出现一种更接近原始教会纯洁、或更得全国喜爱的办法,或者权柄会缓和许多现在被顽固要求的事。其间先有一段混乱,「如同以色列中没有王的时候」,这是《旧约·士师记》里的话,形容无人做主、各行其是。
他推测军人或性子火爆的人会扣住给教士的捐输,拒绝服从;事情交由官长与王国的最高权力审议;多数神职人员和判断健全的人也会反对。末了的结论(图二):长老制不能照原样在英格兰维持,除非修正改良、废去许多琐细的规矩。依据是把木星当作第四宫(射手)之主,代表平民,月亮在短暂空亡之后急奔火星与木星的四分,主平民与教士相违,教士的期望落空。
本章是军国、宗教大事的推测,莉莉自己说「不是肯定或断言,而是推测」。本站只照书中所说翻译与说明盘上的根据,不评论,也不补入书外的史实。
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